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Question: Do you belive there should be a Server wipe? Read below before you post.
Yes. - 11 (34.4%)
No. - 21 (65.6%)
Maby - 0 (0%)
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« on: December 06, 2005, 08:09:55 PM »

Hello people, I am here to find out if the community thinks there should be a server wipe. If you vote please give us the reason why. I would like to know and so would other people and maby your veiw might change someone elses desions.

I belive there should be, because things are so common now. Everyone throws away lvl 3 rares or keeps it in a Fore "newbs" chest. Gold is so common most people have enough to buy every rare they wanted in the game. Supers are being passed around to freinds like candy and everyone seems able to level up to those 300+'s Without much effort. I alos belive if theres a reset it will bond the community and teach each other who is the more permanent people. This will let them know also who they can trust and depend on. People will also have more fun with clans as in there wont be 200 dif clans their will be maby 2 after 2-3 weeks if that making clans more of a Gatering palce. Those big leader boards will be more easly gained I mean comon No ones gonna beat RUSSEL anyway. Pk's wouldnt be 1hit kills anymor and require more (Maby) Team work to get added pk's on lets say clans. Nowa days people walk around and can kill anyone lvl 100 or lower in 1 hit. It's getting ridiculos. (sorry for spelling errors.)
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2005, 08:19:29 PM »

I agree with you about some of those things. I think that it should definately be taken into consideration that things are now becoming cheap, while inherently they were not. It would make the game more interesting.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2005, 08:21:28 PM »

Gotta say no on this.  I just started over with my chars a few months ago, and would really hate it if there was a wipe now.
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2005, 08:33:17 PM »

Would a wipe really help? How long before it gets to where it is right now? Unless we're going to be doing some sort of latter system (monthly resets), I give this idea a thumbs down. I see some wipe suggestions as transparent attempts at getting the opportunity to get on the same level as everyone else.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2005, 08:38:10 PM »

First of all, Zare, don't you think that it would be more interesting if we could all start without being helped by someone? I'm not sure if you got help or not, and do not mistake me for assuming that you did, I'm just bringing something to light.

Second, kyoko, please, you must understand. I think Quest is to a point at which there is a plethora of players involved in this community that has been established over time. To conduct a wipe would simply be to clean the game up a bit. It is inperturbable truth that if the server were wiped, those loyal to Quest would remain, and a stronger community would inevitably be formed, as Myran has pointed out. I think perhaps this issue should be given more consideration.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2005, 08:54:34 PM »

I, actually, agree with kyo. It wouldn't take too long before we hit this state again... there wouldn't be a point.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2005, 12:07:36 AM »

back in ye olde days, no one was given crap, you had to lvl up yourself, find your own supers, and rares, and money..everything,I personally would love to see his situation evolve oncemore, id just like to see the evolution once more of who comes out on top,theres only a few true warriors in the game in my eyes,and they are the ones that got to that level themself,found those supers,and kicked ass..not given/borrowed,stood in town all day getting items thrown at them
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2005, 03:58:16 AM »

I still don't give away stuff for that reason exactly
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2005, 06:43:29 AM »

I worked hard in the early days to stay alive; didn't beg money or items from anyone - just a bit of advice which was freely given.

As I have stayed around, I have been loaned a few items which I have to confess, kept my interest in the difficult times. This enabled me to kill faster and gain enough items/money to get my own stuff FASTER. It did not replace the work. We all know in Quest that there are points where getting your char  improved is just hard work.

I won't hand over rares and stuff to new players because often they don't stay but I see no reason to give a player without a weapon a shop item found in the dungeon, for example. It keeps their interest and grows the community. But not every item - mainly because 5 dungeon items give me 300k!

If my chars are wiped, I very much doubt if I would play again; I would see all of the hard work that I put into my chars as wasted.

I understand the reasoning behind a wipe but cannot support it.

Oh and as for having a lot of gold; nope. Still can't afford a clan lol!
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2005, 01:43:20 PM »

I wouldn't mind seeing a wipe at all.  But NOT a server wipe.  Maybe a clan wipe to bring the value back into the items found.  I for one would lose a lot if that did happen, but it would make it a bit more interesting.  No more having a ton of lvl 8 weapons on hand that you can get for less than half, if you try hard enough, than what they were when I started playing only 4 months ago.  I work hard to get my rares and it's offensive to have someone new try to get me to sell a lvl 8 weapon or armor for say 10mil.  I paid 20+ mil for all of the lvl 8's I didn't find.  I did have one given to me.  But that was only after putting in time and working hard on my chars.  So I voted yes, but didn't mean for a complete wipe.  Just something to bring some value back to rares.  I hear you used to get 5-10 mil per lvl of rare, what would be so bad if that happened again?  Thanks for putting this up though.  I have been wondering about it all.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2005, 01:57:19 PM »

Thanks for everyone coming here to post their oppions. And i see why people dont wanna restart. But what if something big where changed? Like lets say increase battle time or Make rares even harder to find. Inser more rares and add more levels of monsters (Because at like 3800 your fighting 8's all the way to the end theirs enough room to add more we would just need ideas proposed to Brandon) Or osmething else dramatic that would make it more harder to get the Economy so screwed up and other things. It would also make rares/supers Harder to come by and limit people just leeching off their "freinds" Items. It would be a breath of fresh air in this polluted time. And again thank you to everyone who posted and will post.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2005, 02:02:34 PM »

No there should not be, people have worked hard for what they have... Im only level 200, i dont have any super rares and i dont care that i don't, its just an addicting, non competive game for me that i like to do in spare time... I would hate to lose all my time that it took me to get to that level...
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2005, 02:13:05 PM »

Are you mad lol, only came back recently worked hard to get where i am. So i say no to this. Having someone higher up then you just gives you that drive to improve yourself to get to where they are now.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2005, 02:54:46 PM »

I think you need to read a bit more before replying to this. Myran never said anything about other characters being too high a level. He, and I as well, are saying that the economy has expanded to too great a level to be ignored, and that a wipe would nearly clean it up for a quick recession, during which we could build the community even stronger. In essence, we don't care if a character is level 20000, the problem is the value of rares. And people are getting things much too easily. Something needs to be done.
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2005, 03:02:11 PM »

Well, I for one have never found a super - and I don't see why I should have to start all my chars again because you have too many!

It is difficult to find a super, rares are not littering the countryside - they also require hard work.

Players with common sense do not hand over even level 3 rares; I will help a newbie but only with items which can be bought in the shop. It's hard when you first start out and if a lotherian bow keeps them playing then so be it.

It appears to me your beef is with players who are *overly* generous and you cannot legislate for that.

The ONLY change I would like to see is to kill the non-used clans; there are far too many there and I am sure many of them do not get used.
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2005, 06:27:23 PM »

As said before I agree that a wipe is useless unless we find a money drain.
Also the option to sell rares directly to a shop (just sell, no buy) is an option

I think the option of a Clan Wipe sounds like a good temporarely plan till more permanent changes are thought of and coded. I think ... Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2005, 10:09:32 PM »

First off, so many misunderstandings. There is nothing wrong with helping no.Obs out, it's just kind of ridiculous how they are so easy to come by these days. Anyway, yeah, I guess that darned bow is leaving a stain on us....

And I agree with you, MB/MR, that the clan wipe sounds good. Also, the rares being sold straight to the shop sounds awesome. There are many things that can be done to help fix the problem. It merely had to be brought up...(as if it hasn't been enough, eh?) Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2005, 10:21:28 AM »

agree with MB/MR   Tongue  read up, clan wipe was my idea lol BAH HUMBUG!!!
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2006, 01:12:05 PM »

I dont think a wipe would help much... like it was said it wouldnt take loing to get where it is now. The reason i started this game is because there were no wipes, the game never ended, it wasnt a competition, rather a game with friends Smiley

I do, however, think that somthing should be done. I made a post (like 2 mins ago) depicting weapon damage. This would degrade the quality of the weapon over time making them not be soo common because of expenses (please just read my post i cant remember everything i said.... well i can but im lazy and dont want to write it here)

Also what if people could only have/belong to one clan? this would limit the number of clans a LOT.

The store should also be able to buy rares (but not sell them) that way if somone needs a quick lot of cash then they can get it by selling their lvl 3 rares.

Another thing about the shop is it can help regulate the price of rares.... if the shop will pay 25 mill then the cost for the item will stay around 25 mill, as opposed to fluctuating from 10 to 30 mill

a few ideas from a noob, lemme know whatchya think Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2006, 11:20:54 PM »

when exactly was the last character wipe
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