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« on: March 08, 2009, 08:03:37 AM » |
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Dlor I move too fast (high FOC) and have too much invested in DEF mods to have monsters crit me with this "2%" crit rate and doing it twice in a battle. For us at the top who have to fight monsters +70 lvls above us to get equipment please ditch it. The amount of deaths I have from this is retarded, I already have to work hard because I'm not dishing out very much damage do to less STR. Please consider this, and whats with 80000 gold to repair my armor 4%? Jeweling is already going to have to extend the life of items we cannot find better ones for and that's already expensive . So why is there such large difference between fixing a weapon compared to armor?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2009, 10:25:31 AM » |
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not to sound mean, but if ur dying fighting monsters 70 lvls above u, then just fight monsters closer to ur lvl, its that simple. some of us have to fight monsters several lvls below our own to avoid dying, dont whine about the details of the game just because your fighting monsters well above ur lvl. sure, armor expenses are one thing that u can complain about if u think they are too expensive, but if the monster just happens to crit 2x in a battle at 2% chance, you're just unlucky, and if u dont do that much damage, fight monsters that are closer to ur lvl that u can do more damage to, its that simple.
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2009, 11:08:04 AM » |
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i'm with hoya on the crit rate thing. i think its just a part of the game to be dealt with. it is a large part of what keeps me only fighting 10-20lvls over me, not 70.
now on the repairs i fully agree. if there is some reason it is like this i think an explanation would be great and make us all feel at least a little better. my weapon and armor are within 2 lvls of each other weapon is usper armor is uncommon. it makes no sense that the weapon is 400 to repair v. 20k, so i tink this needs a little tweaking.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2009, 03:21:04 PM » |
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gotcha, repair costs haven't been thought about in the new version. We'll update them to be very reasonable and appropriate.
There is a 2% "luck" crit that is unaffected by anything. Use of flee, strategic in-battle healing, whatever it takes. When you fight monsters higher than you these are real problems. You can grind away on easier monsters with no risk.
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2009, 06:35:24 PM » |
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I like the challenge of fighting such high monsters which is why I made a high fighting skill character. There hasn't been a challenge a monster has thrown at me I haven't surpassed, except this 2% bump. While I'll agree if I was using a machine gun I can get lucky and hit a vital or the head that's really what this is. You can't take a stroke of sword back, nor does one get lucky when wielding it. It comes down to skill which I took great pride in creating my character with. I gained my first strikes to be relentless and my critical hits from the precision skill gives. I have to chose my battles which is half the fun (fleeing in terror), I don't want to hide in a tin suit smashing nub monsters to play the RNG slot machine. With any art there is always a counter I know, but could you make this 2% at least surmountable? I don't care how difficult it will be as I am in a good position to overcome it like everything else in this game. Just my deeper view on this.
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2009, 07:45:09 PM » |
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how is making it so that everything random has a way of overcoming the randomness any better than "smashing nub monsters to play the rng slot machine" as u put it? its like what was said before, if u want to take the risk of fighting way over ur level, than u just have to deal with the chance of being critical hit. if you want to get past the 2% chance for the monster to crit u, fight monsters that do lower damage to u so that when they do get a critical, it wont be much more damage than a normal hit. like i said before, stop complaining about the randomness in the game and just deal with it. if its really that much of a problem, fight monsters closer to ur lvl, its as simple as that.
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2009, 08:49:03 PM » |
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I'm a broken record My argument is that skill will over come a random occurrence with the weapons we use. So don't take things out of context when you are only going to force your ideal as the only option. I don't really have a choice given that armor is VERY hard to come by so I fight to find it before it becomes useless when I find a different section. I'm sure the top five will agree with me when it comes to that.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2009, 08:51:25 PM » |
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Armor is hard to find, yes, but I don't have a problem with the 2% nor the 5% chance to miss while hitting a mob. Its just a part of the game, If you want to mash buttons with no fear of dying fight closer. If you want to go look for better gear on the edge of where you can fight then fight carefully.
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2009, 11:00:11 PM » |
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My argument is that skill will over come a random occurrence with the weapons we use. So don't take things out of context when you are only going to force your ideal as the only option. I don't really have a choice given that armor is VERY hard to come by so I fight to find it before it becomes useless when I find a different section. I'm sure the top five will agree with me when it comes to that.
if ur going to quote me, use something i actually said. nowhere did i say that broken record thing, all u did was put a quote with me name on it and write what u wanted. and as for the top 5 thing, im pretty sure they dont all agree with u anyway, but u cant just change rules for 1% of the people playing the game because they don't like them, nobody ive talked to seems to have a problem with the 2% critical minimum chance but you.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2009, 12:02:32 AM » |
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...It's like boxing. Some guy can punch you in the face and knock you out even if you're the best. It's just more common in this game I suppose with 2%. You're basically asking "Hey, let me have the way I want it because I don't want to die fighting monsters that I shouldn't be anyways that far from my level." =| In other games I play, they'd call you a noob//whiner. $0.02
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2009, 05:20:36 AM » |
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My argument is that skill will over come a random occurrence with the weapons we use. So don't take things out of context when you are only going to force your ideal as the only option. I don't really have a choice given that armor is VERY hard to come by so I fight to find it before it becomes useless when I find a different section. I'm sure the top five will agree with me when it comes to that.
if ur going to quote me, use something i actually said. nowhere did i say that broken record thing, all u did was put a quote with me name on it and write what u wanted. and as for the top 5 thing, im pretty sure they dont all agree with u anyway, but u cant just change rules for 1% of the people playing the game because they don't like them, nobody ive talked to seems to have a problem with the 2% critical minimum chance but you. *spots a box* I guess this means I'm outside. Please LEARN TO READ, now shoo.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2009, 05:27:47 AM » |
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...It's like boxing. Some guy can punch you in the face and knock you out even if you're the best. It's just more common in this game I suppose with 2%. You're basically asking "Hey, let me have the way I want it because I don't want to die fighting monsters that I shouldn't be anyways that far from my level." =| In other games I play, they'd call you a noob//whiner. $0.02
Well in real life your acting like an arrogant SOB, hows that working for you?
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2009, 06:47:10 AM » |
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My argument is that skill will over come a random occurrence with the weapons we use. So don't take things out of context when you are only going to force your ideal as the only option. I don't really have a choice given that armor is VERY hard to come by so I fight to find it before it becomes useless when I find a different section. I'm sure the top five will agree with me when it comes to that.
if ur going to quote me, use something i actually said. nowhere did i say that broken record thing, all u did was put a quote with me name on it and write what u wanted. and as for the top 5 thing, im pretty sure they dont all agree with u anyway, but u cant just change rules for 1% of the people playing the game because they don't like them, nobody ive talked to seems to have a problem with the 2% critical minimum chance but you. *spots a box* I guess this means I'm outside. Please LEARN TO READ, now shoo. Nowhere in that quote is there anything that suggests he cannot read, as far as I can see he was responding to what you yourself said (and quoted yourself, just to reiterate) about the top five agreeing with you. As far as I am aware, the item dropping was done this way for a reason, you're not supposed to be able to find things at your level. This forces people to actually use the AH rather than just saying 'screw it, I'll find something myself eventually' and therefore makes the economy more fluid. It also makes it an actual challenge for those people at the top. You're on a curve here, if you want to be at the top end of the game, expect to fight harder for it than those who can coast on AH items. As to the broken record thing - please stop using straw man arguments, they don't get you anywhere.
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2009, 04:52:49 PM » |
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...It's like boxing. Some guy can punch you in the face and knock you out even if you're the best. It's just more common in this game I suppose with 2%. You're basically asking "Hey, let me have the way I want it because I don't want to die fighting monsters that I shouldn't be anyways that far from my level." =| In other games I play, they'd call you a noob//whiner. $0.02
Well in real life your acting like an arrogant SOB, hows that working for you? if that isnt the pot calling the kettle black, i dont know what is. i honestly think ur the one being the arrogant SOB Rush, so like u asked XTW, hows that working out for u? and thank you for defending me lyr/jonny (whichever one of u made that post since u apparently share the names back and forth) because i had no idea what he was talking about when he said i should learn to read.
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2009, 05:03:52 PM » |
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when we post on the wrong accounts we tend to edit it and explain. So yeah, was me, and no problem 
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2009, 08:20:18 PM » |
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...It's like boxing. Some guy can punch you in the face and knock you out even if you're the best. It's just more common in this game I suppose with 2%. You're basically asking "Hey, let me have the way I want it because I don't want to die fighting monsters that I shouldn't be anyways that far from my level." =| In other games I play, they'd call you a noob//whiner. $0.02
Well in real life your acting like an arrogant SOB, hows that working for you? if that isnt the pot calling the kettle black, i dont know what is. i honestly think ur the one being the arrogant SOB Rush, so like u asked XTW, hows that working out for u? and thank you for defending me lyr/jonny (whichever one of u made that post since u apparently share the names back and forth) because i had no idea what he was talking about when he said i should learn to read. Good actually, I don't believe in lying to myself. You on the other hand are ignorant and are lucky Darwinism doesn't get a crack at you. You came into the thread made a post, that's fine and dandy. Your next post was of such poor attitude towards me as if my opinion was completely merit less and I was in the wrong for stating it. It was also a repetition of your previous statement leading me to snarkly quote you as a broken record and make a defiant stance. My only problem has been YOU. Why after saying what you thought to be true, did you return as if my questioning it was of an insult to you? Are you always getting in peoples faces when they don't agree with you? I don't take kindly to trolls and I will not use discretion when it comes to conversing with them. I only returned XTW's name calling in turn, you although have only showed a puzzling much deeper animosity. I have no further interest in this topic so consider it dead. Hopeful Tina will lock it and we can move on to other more pressing topics than spamming this one.
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2009, 11:26:27 PM » |
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Sigh... Rush. I said in other games that's what they'd call you. I never outright called you one. Don't infer the wrong thing, buddy.
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2009, 06:33:49 AM » |
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Sigh... Rush. I said in other games that's what they'd call you. I never outright called you one. Don't infer the wrong thing, buddy.
Please don't infer other peoples opinions on me. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2009, 02:39:30 PM » |
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Sigh... Rush. I said in other games that's what they'd call you. I never outright called you one. Don't infer the wrong thing, buddy.
Please don't infer other peoples opinions on me.  This quote wins the internet. [edit] - Jonny
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2009, 09:38:36 PM » |
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Uh. I showed this to a few of my friends. They read it, told me that's what they'd call you. I didn't infer. =]
-Edit here's a quote from one of them, actually. "No offence, but he sounds like a prick. If the game is too easy, go find a harder game. 'Nuff said "
And if prick is no good on the forums, please tell me.
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