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« on: February 10, 2007, 07:19:28 AM »

Micro$uck has done it again... botched another operating system

Ok so i installed windows vista, and tried to run quest.  brought the quest folder directly from my memory stick, and tried to run it... didnt work. then i remembered that MB said somthing about running as admin... so i tried that, started, but didnt load the map. Curious. Took me several hours to remember...

Quest doesnt work on a computer untill you install it. You can not copy/paste a folder from a memory stick or network or whatever and expect it to work unless you first install quest. Once you install, it doesnt matter where you run quest from.

Jouser, if you could fix this, that would be awsome.


Second... The "res fix" doest work. Not with vista. I am spawning in the bushes once again. Oh wait... ok it sort of does but its buggy...  I know with my res prog that it often has the map in a corner... hit F2 and it centers. Unfortunately, theres a lot of garbage left on the black border from where the map used to have been.

Suggested fix... Jouser make the game a window, and lock the res at 1024 x 768.

More will come.




As for vista... dont know yet... its hogging a crapload of ram... my pagefile usage is like 500 megs... and my processor usage s averaging around 10%... thats intense. Somone else described it better as being a pig with lipstick. It seems Micro$uck spends a lot of time on shiny knobs and flashy windows, and doesnt bother fixing many of the main problems... my computer crashed 3 times after i installed, and i wasnt doing anything...

It takes a bit of getting used to the semitransparent windows, and things that are no longer where they used to be... for instance to change the desktop resolution is a seriously different set of steps. And new windows. Is micro$uck trying to confuse us?

Consider this... the telephone has remained popular, even after several decades. Generation after generation, the basic phone stays the same. Its simple, easy to use, and doesnt change a whole lot. Granted there are those with flashy gadgets on em, but how many 90 year olds do you know that use em? But they all know how to use a basic push button phone. So the few "old" people that use computers for things like e-mail, i wouldnt suggest they get vista... heck im a geek and its taking me a while to wade through the windows finding what im looking for...

all in all, it will take time. I read online SP1 is already in the making for vista, and it JUST came out... whats with that? If theyre going to make an OS and charge $300 for it, they might as well make it work. Dont jus make it shiny, but make it easy to use, stable, and run with stuff that people have in place... Let it work somewhat like what people know. Dont remake the wheel... :/

In short... i dont endourse it. Im going to keep using it because im going to need to know how, but i prefer XP. If you want to get it, load it as well as XP, that way you can still run your critical programs.

Im out. Feel free to add to this. Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2007, 03:12:25 PM »

Are you sure it's the operating system and not your computer? Aside from the Quest problems, Vista is running perfectly. Try getting a dual-core processor. If you do have one, try one that ISN'T in a laptop (cooling isues.) Also, you seem a bit disgruntled because Vista isn't as good as you want it to be. Hmm... when did Microsoft start holding guns to people's heads? Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2007, 09:51:14 AM »

Vista is a flashy version of XP that works in different ways and sucks up a lot of memory. =P
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2007, 12:39:35 AM »

Are you sure it's the operating system and not your computer? Aside from the Quest problems, Vista is running perfectly. Try getting a dual-core processor. If you do have one, try one that ISN'T in a laptop (cooling isues.) Also, you seem a bit disgruntled because Vista isn't as good as you want it to be. Hmm... when did Microsoft start holding guns to people's heads? Tongue


My laptop is new, like less than 6 months... and when i got it it was best i could get. And Vista has this utility that rates your computer's components up to 5.9, and my lowest is 4.7, so its not my computer.



My res prog didnt work because Vista security killed it. Im working on fixing it. I can get it to "work" but some of the shiny stuff in vista causes it to malfunction... still working on a fix for it. The Quest res fix seems to be messed up from the same "shinies". I still stand by that if Jouser made Quest be a windowed application instead of fullscreen, that would solve that problem.

New Quest error tho, if you try to run it not as an admin (which many of you people out there will eventually be doing as your parents get Vista and try to "secure it") it gave me an error...
http://www.questrpg.org/forum/index.php?topic=1424.0 (RT error 339)

Oh my questchat logger thing is also messing up... oh well... gotta figure out how to fix it all :/




anyways, more on vista.

Still a pig in lipstick... Finding some cool features tho... like being able to use USB memory (mem sticks or whatever) and set it so it uses a pagefile and adds to your ram... thats pretty cool.

Im learning some of the features... like instead of alt+tab, theres a new option which looks really awsome. The start menu folder thing (folders all open in the start menu instead of adding more to the menu like XP does) thats really awsome.

Theres like a search function on the start menu, so you can type in what you want to run instead of searching through everything to find it... that really increases the speed of accessing programs. If you know what your looking for.

Still lots to learn, even after a weekend, and im having lots of issues with old programs / drivers working with the current windows. I cant get my power utilities to work with this version of vista, and Acer is lame and doesnt have vista versions on their website yet.

The backup utility is pretty easy and basic to understand. Already made use of it once. Idoit proof... but you know what they say,,, make it idoit proof and they make a better idoit.

Im liking this new IE7 for vista. Much better than the XP version. Much. Buttons are in different locations, but once you get used to it, its not too bad...

"Cancle or Allow" can kiss my left nut. Seriously. Ask me once, and never again. Not an option. I checked.
See youtube for explination... Search for "Mac Add Vista" or somthing of the like. Its worse than that.

Seriously. Fix Cancle or allow... That alone will make SP1 worth it.

Having daily updates avaliable is sort of cool... makes you feel like they (Micro$uck) are actually doing somthing. Dont get that with Vista.

Media Center is like, 100 times better.

Media player tends to glitch a lot... like playback is "bumpy"... like your trying to stream the file over a crappy internet conenction. Dropping frames to keep in line with sound helps with some movies... but it still needs work. However it looks a WHOLE lot better playing movies fullscreen than MP11 or whatever it was.

Dont know why the changed how the desktop properties window worked... was better before. Not because i knew how it worked before, but because it was easier to work with. You had to go through less steps to get the same result. maybe i might find a reason why they changed it when i learn more about what else is there...


Soo far i think Kyo was right...  I had expectations, and because it wasnt what i expected first off, i was sort of biast against it. Now that i have been using it for a while, my opinion is this... It still sucks. Its got some cool features, and a lot of goodies, but i suggest wait at least a few months so they can fix a few of the problems...

Or just stick with XP. No guns required. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2007, 01:20:27 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2007, 07:10:47 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2007, 04:51:29 PM »

Seems like you're having more issues with your scripts rather than with Quest. The only problem I found with Quest is that in fights, your background appears to be gray and not black to match the fight screen. Besides that, after putting some time in for compatibility issues, I find Vista to be a pretty nice operating system. There's one annoying bug, though... I was transferring 986 files from one partition to another, and that seems to mess with the file-transfer calculator.
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2007, 03:36:05 PM »

Vista is just terrible.  End of story.

I'm waiting for SP1 to reinstall it.
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