OH NO! not another one! Yes, i have an idea... clan bonuses time

[Jon_Deciple]

Ok so it was mentioned that some people thought a clan chat would be a good idea. Some said not, that clans are hardly used anyways. It was also mentioned that clans should have a greater use rather than being just storage places.

So heres some ideas...

Clan bonuses
all your stats get a 10% bonus, and you get 10% more exp while you have the clan tag on. Having the clan tag on means beefier stats, but it also means that you cant have decline on. You will lvl faster, but others can attack you. Risky risky, but might help make clans have ore of a use.

Clan Monthly Upkeep
5 mill upkeep every month or the clan gets deactivated. If a clan is deactivated for a month, it gets removed, items n all. The upkeep would come out of the clan's bank. Gold sink, and to counteract the bonus you get for wearing the clan tag.

Message boards
Not sure where the message boards would go... somone whos in favour of this please try to lay out how it would work, where it would be located, etc. Would you need to press a button once you log in to get to the "clan messages" and how would the clan messages come up? as a display box? to replace the detailed stats? Lay this out... when i started i was in favor of it, but after a while i realized its not really that necessissary.

Clan solidarity (right word?)
You can only be in one clan at a time. This gets tricky... lots of ppl own more than one clan... and im sure i wont want to be giving up my clans, so this is how i figure it would go down...

when u go to add ppl to the clan list, it would check if they exist in another clan. If they do, they cant be added to that clan. Each clan would have a "leave clan" button, so if your part of that clan, you can leave it for a different one. The main point of this is to minamize the number of clans that are on the list. Also it could help spark more rivalries, like that i hear from the "good ol days" of MALE and GIRL, or IIII and whoever else. This wouldnt remove anyone who is in more than one clan from the clans they are in, rather the new clans that are made those people couldnt be added to.




Ok so im adding options for or against each of these. Vote once for each. Post comments.

[Hitme]

Jon you should Learn when you give that last response is to jump off a bridge or beat your self with something, its gonna get picked alot.

[AcesJaes]

lol Yeah. Also, Solidarity isn't a good idea, It would have been if it was like that from the beginning, but since it isn't... Too many people are already in more than one clan, giving it up would be picking sides, really hard for people like me, who like to stay on most people's good side.

[kyoko]

"Clan bonuses" : Sounds good to me, except for the EXP part
"Clan Monthly Upkeep [sic]" : Hmm... nah... people shouldn't have to pay for unintentional, impromptu inactivity
"Message boards" : Why not?
"Clan solidarity [sic]" : Yeah, but maybe a 2 or 3 max. And then we'd have to work in plans for item storage.

What I myself want to see? The price of clans quadruple. They need more meaning. I mean... I have 30-something

[AcesJaes]

"Clan bonuses" : Sounds good to me, except for the EXP part
"Clan Monthly Upkeep [sic]" : Hmm... nah... people shouldn't have to pay for unintentional, impromptu inactivity
"Message boards" : Why not?
"Clan solidarity [sic]" : Yeah, but maybe a 2 or 3 max. And then we'd have to work in plans for item storage.

What I myself want to see? The price of clans quadruple. They need more meaning. I mean... I have 30-something

  Like the idea of two or three max clans, not as much choosing.

  The upkeep I think is a good idea, and would make a good sink, but instead of taking from the bank, why not make a "Clan Coffers" that will keep the guild running from member donations, and if that is empty, would drain from the gold?  That way, if some noob decides he needs extra money, the guild will not suffer a wipe.

  Message boards I see nothing wrong with, I actually have suggested this before. It's still there too. =P

  Ten percent is a little high for a stat boost. Amar, Hitme, and Kyo (not to mention MB) would be owning all day, plus, the bonus PvP-wise wouldn't do much if the opponent wore a tag either.


  I Would also understand the raise in prices, although it'd mean I wouldn't be even near half the gold for a clan at this moment (20 mil is my money. lol).

[MysticRat]

"Clan bonuses" Nehh, the elite tag and extra storage is your bonus
"Clan Monthly Upkeep" Yes!! 1 mill for each member / month (It will keep the noobs out of clans and give them back a elite status)
"Message boards" useless ... to many out there already
"Clan solidarity" Neh .... don't like that idea

I got a extra one:
Clan sprite! A clan represents a special sprite (like tartan)
Everybody in that clan is allowed to use that sprite or will automaticly be forced to use that sprite(?) when logging in to the clan.

[JackHammer]

But...as a game that has global chat and the clan's acronym prepended to their name...what would be the point of clan sprites?

[Lyrael]

Voted against everything. And that you should be beaten. Leave my goddamn clans alone.

[MysticRat]

But...as a game that has global chat and the clan's acronym prepended to their name...what would be the point of clan sprites?

*coolnes*

[Acdc]

no mb not coolnes awsomeness

[AcesJaes]

But...as a game that has global chat and the clan's acronym prepended to their name...what would be the point of clan sprites?

Exactly. Also, It'd probably not be too fun for me if the clan sprite is some buffed-out random dude without a shirt.

* Acesjaes shudders at the thought.

[Jon_Deciple]

Jon you should Learn when you give that last response is to jump off a bridge or beat your self with something, its gonna get picked alot.

Im noticing this trend... and secretly hoping that people will vote... since they have the options to vote for that AND somthing else, why wouldnt they?
And it depresses me that nobody thinks im €ool...

lol Yeah. Also, Solidarity isn't a good idea, It would have been if it was like that from the beginning, but since it isn't... Too many people are already in more than one clan, giving it up would be picking sides, really hard for people like me, who like to stay on most people's good side.

Note how i took extra time to explain this. If you are already in more than one clan, it wouldnt kick you out. what it would do is if your in a clan and you try to get added to another clan, it would do a check. If the check came back that your in another clan, it would reject you from being in the clan your trying to get in to. Hopefully this would reduce the number of clans that are made.

"Clan bonuses" Nehh, the elite tag and extra storage is your bonus

"Clan bonuses" : Sounds good to me, except for the EXP part

What?!? Elite tag and extra storage? Come on, MB The only reason i got a clan when i started was because my bank wasnt big enough... now that im set, i could live without the clan storage. It just helps transfering items between chars. Not that great of a bonus. And Kyo, the exp part would ad a check and balance to the other bonuses... so people couldnt always hide behind decline! it would add a whole new aspect to the game without changing a whole lot. Now you have the option of getting buffer, and lvling faster, with the risk of somone coming along and sending you to an early grave. It would be awsome! And if your not the risky type, dont use it, and have it only for tournies or somthing?

"Clan Monthly Upkeep [sic]" : Hmm... nah... people shouldn't have to pay for unintentional, impromptu inactivity

What? ur sayin that people shouldnt pay if they go on vacation? maybe we could put a "lock clan" sort of thing... pay a mill and the clans closed.... nothing changes till u unlock it. that way if you DO go on vacation or die or somthing, the clan can be preserved incase you get raised from the dead or somthing.

"Clan Monthly Upkeep" Yes!! 1 mill for each member / month (It will keep the noobs out of clans and give them back a elite status)

Here here! thats what im talking about! not too sure about "each member"... maybe have it so the top25 clans get the exp bonus, and the higher up on the list you are the more gold u gotta pay? nahhh maybe not. And im not too sure about "elite status" but it would make noobs think twice before thinking theyre gonna sink 50 (or more) mills into a clan.

Clan sprite! A clan represents a special sprite (like tartan)
Everybody in that clan is allowed to use that sprite or will automaticly be forced to use that sprite(?) when logging in to the clan.

maybe... would take more sprites tho, hey maybe thats not soo bad of an idea.... maybe like once a month or somthing there could be a contest where people make a bunch of sprites, and the best one gets voted on, and we could auction it off to the clan with the highest bidder! the gold would get returned to the game, and bingo we have a gold sink! Maybe people offer sprites that they make, and the last week of the month theres bidding, and the winning bid picks a male and female sprite for the clan.

Bad part of that would be there would need to be a new version every month to allow for this... unless jouser can work somthing funky. anyways, back to what you all said...

Voted against everything. And that you should be beaten. Leave my goddamn clans alone.

lmao lmao lmao lmao. hahaha... .... lmao.. that one made me laugh. So what exactly are you against? dont like the idea of getting buffer while having a tag on? I guess if u got a lot of tags u wouldnt like the idea of needing to pay for em.... lol.


And lastly...

HR, your opinion is indefinetly Null and Void.

[AcesJaes]

Jon you should Learn when you give that last response is to jump off a bridge or beat your self with something, its gonna get picked alot.

Im noticing this trend... and secretly hoping that people will vote... since they have the options to vote for that AND somthing else, why wouldnt they?
And it depresses me that nobody thinks im €ool...

lol Yeah. Also, Solidarity isn't a good idea, It would have been if it was like that from the beginning, but since it isn't... Too many people are already in more than one clan, giving it up would be picking sides, really hard for people like me, who like to stay on most people's good side.

Note how i took extra time to explain this. If you are already in more than one clan, it wouldnt kick you out. what it would do is if your in a clan and you try to get added to another clan, it would do a check. If the check came back that your in another clan, it would reject you from being in the clan your trying to get in to. Hopefully this would reduce the number of clans that are made.

But... Let's say I eventually decide I want to make my own clan; That would mean quitting all my other clans in addition to spending 50 million for the right to do it.

[Lyrael]

Voted against everything. And that you should be beaten. Leave my goddamn clans alone.

lmao lmao lmao lmao. hahaha... .... lmao.. that one made me laugh. So what exactly are you against? dont like the idea of getting buffer while having a tag on? I guess if u got a lot of tags u wouldnt like the idea of needing to pay for em.... lol.

I'm against the bonuses for a couple reasons

1) This is a selfish one, but I just don't want you to make it easier for people to catch me up and before you say it won't be 'easier' because they'd be at risk of being killed...seriously...have you played the game lately? Not exactly a lot of people around to go pking.

2) You're saying only the top25 clans or so should have bonuses. I really don't like the idea of only a few clans having them, or some clans having better ones, because then I'd be forced to wear a certain tag. Why do you think I have so many clans? I like having choices of tags.

I'm against the clan monthly upkeep because...you guessed it, I got like 30 clans. No way I'm paying money on all of them, also if you're paying by membership, I'm in at LEAST 50. Just...no.

I'm against message boards for the same reason I'm against clan chat, there's too many clans, mostly with the same people in, just not worth it, the only clan which is in any way exclusive and would therefore actually benefit from message boards is IIII and they already have their own forums.

I'm against clan solidarity. Like I already said, I like my choices. I don't like how you can only be in one clan/guild in most games, in fact, I hate it. I have 10 different chars on my WoW server, EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. is in a different clan, for diversity. A lot of the time I choose which char I want to play based solely on the guilds they're in and which chat I want to listen to.

[Acdc]

Boo upkeep
YAY freedom

[Bear05]

the last suggestion you made wasnt bad but id tweak it jon. instead of 1 clan why not 3 that someone can be in, really thats more than enough. overall though i like the ideas.

[_Ares_]

O!!! i have an idea if your in a clan you can store stuff publicaly or privately

[Jon_Deciple]

not too sure how the storage thing would work... basically your asking for a bank that had no limit...

As to the limit, sure why not? whatever floats your boat. personally i use my clan for storage and easy access for all my chars, and some people use the tags when theyre afk in town, dont see many people out fighting with a tag on Thats why i suggested the added stats when using the tag.

Lyr, you wouldnt be kicked from any clans that you already have... you just couldnt join any more.

and what if it were made so you could create more than one clan, but cant join em if your in 3 or more clans? would that be acceptable?

[Lyrael]

No, cause then I can't join any more clans! Silly! and neither could any of the other people who normally get auto-invited to my clans, and then any new clans of mine would just have me in, and that's not fair.