gold sinks

[Bear05]

i got a few ideas, largely spitballing off other people's ideas.

1. Noslin Teleport
    It could be done like a potion you buy from an NPC.  This could be close to a compromise between the "rune" idea and the "toll" idea.  Just say each # of the teleport potion is one use and have their cost be on a sliding scale.  Maybe a #1 costs 10mill while a #100 costs 75mill.  This way you dont have to pay everytime you go up there, plus its a continuing sink not just 1 time per person.

2. Sprites
    Why not have the witch charge a small fee like 500k, not each time you earn one, but every time you change yhe one you are using.  Or fir a bigger dump have a gold sprite that costs a bill to buy.

3. Clans
    This could help on a couple fronts.  I find it silly that the clan to character ratio is what it is.  Recquire gold to be in clan banks, and have an automatic deduction per day as the expense of that clans existence.  Maybe 10k a day, and if it goes in the red it charges double for a week, and if its not paid off then the clan gets automatically deleted, items and all.

4. Stats
    Either use the witch or another NPC to change stats, i like about 1 mill per stat point.  That could add up to quite a bit say if Ares decided to become a mage, and itd still help overall even in less drastic examples.



thats just what i've got now. any expansions or contractions?

[SirJ00]

sounds good... till you got to the clan part... that's not cool man what about the people who don't play everyday and have no money in there clan?? just items?? then you're pretty screwed

[Acdc]

i disagree with #2 i worked for all my sprites and i dont wnat to have to pay just to use them

[Jon_Deciple]

k what if u could pay to get sprites that you wouldnt be able to use otherwise? Like if u have the dex sprite, you dont need to pay for it, but if u have the reqs for it, u dont need to pay for it? I like the idea.

Teleport idea is already being debated... but a potion format? thats kinda cool, never thought of that... Buy one tele-pot and get sent to noslin... cool idea. Im for it.

Paying for clans? hmmm... Sounds like somones been reading the history of all those houses in llirrum. But a good idea. If theres 10 people in a clan, and it costs like 10k / day then thats like 1k per person. And at higher lvls you can make like a mill every, what? half hour? so thats like... doingome math... 70k needed per week or... 2.8... about 3 mills per month. Dont tell me that you cant pay 3 mills a month for the clan to stay in place. Very good idea i really really like this one. and for the clans that do go kaput the items in em would be gon too, awsome idea i really like it. It gets my vote!

Pay per point is also being debated somewhere else...
http://www.questrpg.org/forum/index.php?topic=1143

Good job keep up the effort

[Bear05]

well like i said i drew largely from others ideas and just tried to expand on them, and im glad somebody got the point. 1 big gold sink wont work, too few people using it too infrequently.  several sinks from small(10k) to bigger(whatever a big teleport potion would cost) would spread them out. 

so thats 2 mostly in favors and 1 in favor.

[Lyrael]

Paying for clans? hmmm... Sounds like somones been reading the history of all those houses in llirrum. But a good idea. If theres 10 people in a clan, and it costs like 10k / day then thats like 1k per person. And at higher lvls you can make like a mill every, what? half hour? so thats like... doingome math... 70k needed per week or... 2.8... about 3 mills per month. Dont tell me that you cant pay 3 mills a month for the clan to stay in place.

Now times that by the amount of clans you have/are in. I was in over 50 clans last time I counted. Hate this idea. Kthxbai.

[Bear05]

except jons math was wrong


70k per week by 4 weeks a month= about 280k not 2.8mill
3mill would keep a clan running for about a year. and it was just a number i threw out there to eat up some gold. 

figure it at 1k gold a day and thats just 365k gold a year...nothing really, so why not that.  even with 50 clans and if you were the only person paying for them thats a yearly cost of 18.25mill. 

so if you want there to still be tons of unused clans for arguments sake, lets say i chage my mind and suggest 1k instead of 10k.  i still like this idea, its a good gold sink and clan eliminator.

[Jon_Deciple]

we all know i cant do math... let alone mental math... i think math is mental. anyways ya my math is off.... much like my spelling... or lack thereof.

and lyr you yourself wouldnt need to pay, it would mostly be the duy of the clan leader to make sure that the clan has funds, and if you are a member of the clan you could help contribute... and if u dont want to help contribute then whatever...

and if 3 mill woud keep it running for a year, thats not enough. I think it should cot about a mill a month,whatever that works out to...

[Lyrael]

we all know i cant do math... let alone mental math... i think math is mental. anyways ya my math is off.... much like my spelling... or lack thereof.

and lyr you yourself wouldnt need to pay, it would mostly be the duy of the clan leader to make sure that the clan has funds, and if you are a member of the clan you could help contribute... and if u dont want to help contribute then whatever...

and if 3 mill woud keep it running for a year, thats not enough. I think it should cot about a mill a month,whatever that works out to...

Out of those 50 clans only 1 has any gold in at all, and that's my storage clan. I don't like the idea of having to split my gold into different clans to make sure they continue to exist.

[Bear05]

a simple solution is dont keep things in 50 clans just in case, and if anybody gives a rip about those other clans theyd drop some gold into them.

[kyoko]

How about they just be hidden from the clan list? A deactivation, if you will. They'll show up on a tab only the members/owners can see. Then when you want the clan to be active you just pay the backed up fees? That way if you go inactive out of your own accord, then you don't lose a clan. Or 50.

[Acdc]

see now this clan thing is i only use my clans for tounies i wouldnt want to have to pay just so i can use it say 3times a month

[Jon_Deciple]

well if you have 50 clans, it doesnt make sense because you cant be logged in all50 at once... I like the idea of overdue fines, but lets put a limit on it... like if the clan has such and such an amount of overdue fines then it gets removed.

And if it cost a mill a month, thats 12 mill a year * 50 clans thats... 600 mills a year to keep all your clans... you cant tell me you cant make 600 mills a year... and if you cant, then why no sell one of your supers? lol.

[Acdc]

* Heavens_Rath will nvr sell his super cept for another super

and see i wouldnt want it to take my money out of my clan to pay the stupid fee i keep money in there and i dont want it touched EVER not even by me

[Bear05]

yeah i like the late rent fees ideas, something like disappears after a week of nonpayment and deleted 6 months later is how id do it.  and tournies is one of the uses of clans like storage and item sharing, so suck it up....assuming this or anything else is ever implemented