Pay gold to change stats?

[Jon_Deciple]

you all seem to be missing the point here... the idea is to have a sum of gold that you would pay nearly every time you logged on. Not somthing essential, but somthing that people would use. The reason for doing this is to bring the value of items back up from like 5 mills per lvl 8 to arould 30 mills per lvl 8...

As the amount of gold in the game decreases, the value of it would increase. Your all whining about paying a few mills... for those of you that actually fight in noslin, like on top of the mountian, time how long it takes you to make 10 millswithout chatting. Its not that long.

So stop complaining. Its not that much. With 10 mills, i could buy like 6 lvl 8's (like 2 days ago). seriously.

I like the stay where u left off idea. thats kinda cool. but i have to go to work will write more later.

[SamAdams]

One thing you seem to be missing is democracy. The people have spoken, and they like your idea after the modifications. Just because there is less gold doesn't mean that the value of items will increase. That almost doesn't even make any sense. When there's less gold, the price might even go up. The people with the 8's determine the price, but the people buying them determine whether or not they want to pay for the convenience of slightly faster levelling.

It doesn't really take that long to get to the top of Noslin. If it was inefficient, regardless of the purpose, people simply wouldn't pay with the exception of people who wouldn't notice the difference, in which case the prices would continue to decline. It's a supply/demand issue. 8's cost less because there's too many of them and people just want to move product. Even if they did pay the fee, if they had an excess of 8's and needed the gold, they'd only charge what they could get away with for the sake of gain. Plus, no one is going to pay 50mil for even a DSM anymore. Ever.

[Azmodon]

Jon, did you even read the post about the state of quest on my dial-up? No? Okay. Nevermind. Because a forum for discussion is pointless when some people are omitted.

Oh. For the recrord. To get anything but dial-up at my house it'd run me ~$150/mo. Not to mention the price of the network card. And that'd only be DSL. Crappy DSL. So the boon-docks don't favor your technological doo-dahs and expensive warp-a-trons. It's not complaining about it the way you think. It's complaining about practicality.

[Lyrael]

That makes no sense Jon, the reason rares aren't worth anything is because there's so many rares, not because there's so much gold. A gold sink would do nothing to the economy except maybe convince people that selling supers might be worth it, and I personally don't like that idea. What you need is some kind of item sink :p

[Jon_Deciple]

k i kinda ran outta time writing what i was writing before...

Now if you look back... way back... on other posts, i suggested that people be able to sell rares to the NPC.

I kinda guessed people would remember, but i was in a hurry... srry for that one... my bad.

Azmodon... paying to get to noslin is not a NEED, it would be a luxury...  And is it my fault that you live in the middle of nowhere? So why should i be punished because of your misfortune?
And thats also why i said it would be like an hourly thing... pay once and your good for an hour... so if you do disconnect you can go back without needing to pay for 60 minutes.

Oh now i remember where i was going with the value of lvl 8's... as theres less gold in the game from spending it to go to noslin, people like amaruak will have a use for gold instead of no use for gold, and thus they will want to sell their lvl 8 weapons for more to be able to get more gold, to be able to afford transit. Ha i remembered! lol.



Anyways, ya people say its a good idea, but i think the main discrepency is on price... how much should it cost... and from my standings i can see two schools of thought,,,

One beig that the cost should be minimal because disconnections suck, and people dont want to have to pay a milllion times becase they disconnect... Also theyre cheap and dont have the funds to pay that much...

The other being those that have more gold or ways to attain it, and can easially afford the higher prices... they dont disconnect alot, and when they go to noslin they mean to lvl not just to "hang out".


i miss anything?

[Acdc]

but there is the magic of dex and running to the top of Mt noslin

[SamAdams]

This is no longer a suggestions thread. but an argument thread. I have voiced all of my opinions and pointed out how wrong Jon is too many times. I leave it to the community and the administration to decide.

[Jon_Deciple]

O back on topic... supposing it were implimented that it cost money to teleport to noslin, how much should it cost for one trip?

[JackHammer]

If I could moderate this post, i'd split it into three parts. 2 of them, the one about the paying gold to change stats and the one about paying gold to go to certain points, would stay. the other part, which was spam, would be deleted.

My opinions have already been stated too. Start where you left off, making the towns in other cities a little more useful, and paying 10mil to change stats isn't a bad idea.

[Jon_Deciple]

Ya it was my mistake to try to make 2 topics in one post...

[AcesJaes]

That makes no sense Jon, the reason rares aren't worth anything is because there's so many rares, not because there's so much gold. A gold sink would do nothing to the economy except maybe convince people that selling supers might be worth it, and I personally don't like that idea. What you need is some kind of item sink :p

You'd need gold sink more.... The less gold there is, the rarer gold is.... the rarer gold is, the more gold is worth... If a person selling rares cannot get anybody to buy at his price because there isn't as much gold, he must lower his prices. Put two and two together. (But an item sink wouldn't hurt either, but an item sink alone would just make no difference to the massive amount of money in the system.)

[MysticRat]

That's true

but in your own redenation one million gold can be worth more as 10 million gold
I don't care about the price, as long as the economy is balanced

[JackHammer]

* JackHammer summons Alan Greenspan!

xD

[Astraeus]

I think 10 mil per point is a good thing, but put a limit so you can't have more then 3 of a stat per level, like how it is when you level up. For example, if someone is level 1000, they can't turn around and put 5000 in str (not that they would, but just using an easy example). Not sure if this was mentioned, I got tired of reading all the tangents

[Jon_Deciple]

i agree. I also agree about the argument thread thing... maybe a QO could lock this? (but not delete it as im still sucking info from it)

[MysticRat]

Your thread as per request --> closed

[Dlorak]

Move 100 points for 1 BILLION? wow. You gotta be flithy rich...

To restat 1/2 your stat points at level 500 would be 500*(5/2) =1250 points! Which would cost 12.5 BILLION. jeebus.

No gaurantees but I don't see why this shouldn't be put in.