Pay gold to change stats?

[Jon_Deciple]

Ok i was talking with Ares the other day, and we were talking about if we could change stats. I figure that if it cost somthing like 1 million gold per point that you moved, it would make gold worthwhile. We talked for a while about the potential cost of stat changes, and this is what came of it...

This is not supposed to be cheap. If it were too cheap then people could basically re-creat their char and esesntially start a new char at like lvl 500+. Thats not the idea here. If you have a few poiints that were assigned to somthing wrong, then you could have the oppertunity to change it. If you want to move like 200 points (like i have somthing like 250 pts in int, that im not using) its gonna be very expensive. But if you have 3 or 4 points that you want to move, then you should be able to pay some amount and there you go.

So here it is. Vote if you like the idea, how much you would pay to change a single point.


Second, I know its been mentioned a lot before, but running to the top of noslin takes forever. I vote that we allow people to pay like 5 mill to get teleported to the top of mt noslin. Maybe talk to the NPC in town to get teleported? If u like this idea (like i said not mine, just a re-hash) post here.





*Edit*

Kyo - yes. But they would need a pretty large pile of gold.

Alexis  - This isnt buying lvls, allthough the idea of buying exp appeals to me. This is moving points from one stat to another, but we dont want it to bee too cheap. This is supposed to be a gold sink, and is *supposed* to cost a lot. I make several million every hour. If it only cost 500k to change my stats, i could change my build every month, easy. Thats not the idea here.

jack... thanks... you make me feel loved and accepted. Thanks.

lyr - YES! thats what im saying! Woot somone is on the same page as me. 10 mills is kool

HR - *paragraphs*!!! lol. Add a line or two, seoerate your ideas. 5 Mills? hmmm.... maybe. Personally i still think thats too low... When it takes 10 mins to make a mill you realize thats really not very much.

[kyoko]

Wait, so what you're basically saying is that someone could raise a character to 1300 or so, saved up all the money, and change the build completely? I guess it's a good idea, but there should be some sort of point limit then.

[Alexis]

My personal opinion is that you shouldnt be able to buy levels. As far as redistributing points that i can see and think its a good idea. I think 1 million is too much for that though. Maybe half that cost. Which is still quite steep.

[_Ares_]

yea lexi that was my argument on this i think 1 mil is alittle to much but yea 500k would be about right

[JackHammer]

The walk off the pier vote is tempting...but im still on the fence about this. No vote for you.

[Lyrael]

should be way more expensive than 500k. I've reset chars before because I put a couple of points wrong, don't wanna make that pointless

Also...like you said, don't want people saving up and changing hundreds of points. Which wouldn't be hard to do at all with it that low a price.

But I don't reallly have a problem with the idea. 10mils sounds about right to me

[Acdc]

for real its a good idea but if it was 500k i would beable to move 100 points just cause azmond poped in and gave me 50mil(dont know why) so i think 10mil is a little steep but 1mil aint enough i say 5mils and the nosline tele porter i have one thing to say WAA it takes me 3min to get to top of mt noslin from town (if that) its called res jump people its easy so yes to the first idea and no to the second the second one is just a matter of lazyness

[Azmodon]

Happy Hiatus Day, Dark. Listen next time. Ro got 25mil for being the only other person on.

[JackHammer]

Because we all know Ro needs it... =P

[SamAdams]

Hey, I'm below 1bil thanks to buying supers. Every little bit helps ;p

Also, love the idea.

[JackHammer]

Below 1bil? o noes!!!1

* JackHammer is the poorest QO

[SamAdams]

When you go from almost 3bil to below 1bil in less than 30 minutes it feels like quite a loss.

[JackHammer]

I guess I wouldn't know then.

[SamAdams]

Awww, let me console you... *consoles*

Also, something I should have done 3 posts ago... Thank you Azmodon!!



Something I should have done a lot of posts ago - I don't like the teleport to Noslin thing. Not at a price every time. Mabye have a super steep price for an item that would allow you to teleport there or something to that extent. But paying every single time... no. Please.

Either way, I'll have to halfway agree with Rath. While it is in all fairness not a huge chunk of your life gone to waste trekking alllllll the way up the mountain, for some people it actually does become a large part of their day. Take me for example, my roommate's network card sucks a lot. I mean more than any super-duper vacuum cleaner you've seen on tv, more than a suddenly opened airlock outside of the earth's atmosphere, and almost as much as a black hole. Hence, I get kicked. Many times a day. And walking up the Mountain gets old about the 20th time any given day that I may be on. So I can see it either way.

Good, bad, or useless... who knows. What I know is, I would not like to pay the fee 20 times a day.

[Jon_Deciple]

Ok, look at it this way. The gold that you get from monsters goes to your bank. Then you use that gold for what? buying weapons from players? making clans? buying potions?

Seiously, how many of you really use pots a lot. How many of you buy stuff from the store?

Gold is being circulated amoung players, and very little of it goes back to the game. Which means the value of gold will go down as time goes on.

If the price to teleport to noslin was somthing like 5 - 10 mills each trip, you would likely gain most of it back before you go back to town. And theres some of the gold going back into the game.

And SanAdams, you dont like walking to noslin, and you dont want to pay to get to noslin... theres no pleasing you is there? lol.

[Lyrael]

If the price to teleport to noslin was somthing like 5 - 10 mills each trip, you would likely gain most of it back before you go back to town. And theres some of the gold going back into the game.

Not when your network kicks you almost as soon as you get there. I've always wanted a teleport to Noslin, but not at a price you have to pay every single time. I know how crappy routers are. I'd probably spent about 50million before making 1 back the way mine is at the minute. *Glares at it*

[SamAdams]

I guess I wasn't clear enough. Allow me to reiterate.

I don't want to pay every single time. With what Lyrael just added it's obvious that I'm not the only one with a kick problem. I'd never make enough back for the sake of the cost of the trip. I wouldn't mind, however, paying say... 1bil(estimate off the top of my head) to buy a "teleportation rune" or whatever you want to call it that would allow me to teleport to Noslin from where ever I was. It would be more convenient than an NPC I had to walk to, or be in a certain place to encounter, and I wouldn't have to worry about working off x amount of gold per trip.

Not to mention, after your 1,000,000,000 was partially responsible for your re-aquisition of a PoN right before that post, I'd think you of all people could appreciate gold's use

I'm not saying we don't need a money drain of some sort... but paying a fine for the sake of convenient travel and doing so every time would have to be extremely cost-effective to be worth it as most metro lines in most major cities will show you.

[Jon_Deciple]

Are you saying that i couldnt get to where i am if i didnt have my gold? You neglecto remember that i had created a nearly pure mage when i first started, and within a month i had raised about 40 mills fo a clan bymyself. Other people chipped in, and i thank them for that, but it was mostly me. That char got around lvl 200 before i reset it.

Then i bought a set of fenrirs and bahmants with gold that i raised on my own. Then i made a new char and got it to somewhere around lvl 250 before i used a super. and i was able to save up enough for another clan, a DS mace, and zerkers (all t about 25 mills a pop, except for the clan)...

so dont think that im saying this because i got loads of gold... Sure it helps, but i could stash it away, and ma a pure char that would still kick butt... which is why im kinda wondering where kain and the racing league went...


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Theres 3 different network cards. $10, $15, and $20. Go to your local store, ask for a cheap network card. Seriously. I got like at least 5 of em sitting on my desk here in a pile of other stuff. (on top of the half dead motherboard, the graix card that i dont know if it works, and 2 oldschool gamecards, a dialup modem card, and one that i dont even know what it is... i think its for a scanner). Network cards are not overly expensive. Basic ones should not break your bank.

All this "My computer sucks and cuts out a lot" garbage is kinda ticking me off. maybe jouser can lower the sensitivity of if your connected to the internet...

OR

What if when u pay if your disconnected within 60 minutes of paying the fee you can get teleported. Would that make you all happy? that way you could teleport, do your stuff, and if you get disconnected you have 60 mins of free teleport time.

There. Sorry for the rant. Kinda feels good to have a good rant now and then.

[inurro]

Good Idea, 1mil per would be nice so if they wanted to completely make a new build theyd need like 1bil if they were like 100+

[SamAdams]

Ok, I tried to be nice, noob(no pun intended). Now I must attack the feasibility of having to pay for each trip - it's a stupid idea. Having an item that teleports you to [insert random place that's not easy to get to in any game here] is a traditional way of getting places in games where there is NOT way too much gold.

It's not my fault that there are practically no money drains and that monsters drop an insane amount of gold per battle as per comparison to almost any other RPG in creation. Having an NPC in town that lets you teleport to the top of the mountain for x amount (5mil) gold was the original idea. So let's say you're not in town... tough luck? Relog? Plant random teleportation NPC's all over the game? What if you aren't planning on being on long enough to make back x amount of gold. Walk anyway? Don't go? Ridiculous.

It's simply a better idea to have an item that you can use to teleport to Mount Noslin that costs an insane amount of money so that it is coveted and not used by everyone with spare gold (practically everyone who has played even semi-seriously for more than 1 week). This will also be a great money drain[/SLASH]long-term investment making it awesome and stuff.

Here's an even better idea...
Have an NPC in town or all over the place or whatever that can teleport you to the left entrance of Noslin for 5mil, the right entrance of Noslin for 10mil(since it's closer to the mountain itself), or allows you to buy an item for XXXXmil that will allow you to teleport to the top of the mountain of Noslin anytime you want from anywhere in the game. Or just have a larger sum for the top. Whatever. I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just trying to be helpful.